Muppet present. I hail from Camp B. The problem with Standalone mode, isn’t that it doesn’t work (it is serviceable), it’s that key, -basic- even, functions don’t work which ultimately affect how you use the controller.
Not all but many people (myself included) bought this unit under the pretense that it offered a truly standalone DJ experience. Not recording to USB when you have two slots is forgivable (…why tho), but to not be able to set beatgrids? To not have cue points unless you run your tracks through Serato first? C’mon, these are basic functions of mixing software. People aren’t asking for more than was advertised; and Denon DJ’s stance coming out the gate as a company was to try and David-and-Goliath the big P. However, since MCX8000 owners aren’t a great market share, there is no pressure (or need, since the Engine Prime launch, really) to appeal to the existing customer base; if there is movement at all from Development (I often wonder if these people actually exist, or maybe it’s just one guy who’s on vacation), nobody knows because there is No communication whatsoever. Not on the main site, not on DJ gear sites – maybe on this site, if it’s the right day of the week and vague answers don’t bother you. So yes, you will have your “I Changed My Rider!” folks who swear the 8000 can do no wrong, even as it is left to linger; you have the folks who have a bad experience with it and are soured (this was me, but exceptional customer service member got the unit RMAed)… people with their displays freezing up and transport controls frozen and unavailable (this happened to me from a failed firmware update) and having to restart the unit and then the whole other crowd who can’t connect the 8000 to Serato DJ 1.9.10 (Error: Failed to connect audio!). And lastly, you have the people who are most vocal about this, because they see an amazing piece of kit that is languishing away. I say open development to the People, make Engine (at least onboard but desktop too) open-source and let Us deal with fixing it, because the people who have the 8000 already have more motive to actually getting it functioning to its full potential than the people who’ve already lined their pockets from selling it to us. This thing is great with Serato --possibly on par with the first DDJ-SX-- and Standalone is functional – an excellent backup plan or for guest purposes. I don’t steer people away from this product since for the most part it does what it purports to, and I enjoy mine greatly, but after almost an entire year without a formal announcement of any sort it’s hard to keep faith that it will grow into its shoes.
I think someone has mapped it to Traktor, and VDJ is always an option. Personally, give me the 8000 in Standalone mode but with 4-channel mixing and recording to USB and I will take it even without beatgrids (by the way, lack of meaningful beatgridding in Engine 1.5 means your Roll and Slicer effects are DOA). But hey, there’s always the next product cycle.
I’m not trying to cheerlead one way or the other here but these are all things to consider if you are
- a person planning on buying a DJ controller
- a person planning on buying this DJ controller
Look at it this way: Pioneer won’t put out something similar (an RZ with USBs?) for another 2-3 years. The MCX8000 came out 2 years ago. My advice: keep researching online, careful to separate the emotional chaff from the actually useful info. Get to a Guitar Center (or whatever they have where you are for musical instrument stores) and test one out if they still have it on display. Failing those, there are Facebook and other social media groups for the MCX8000 and maybe someone in your area will let you rock on theirs for a bit
Happy New Year!