Thanks for checking it. Then I don’t understand why there is a mismatch when I update the mixer and the SC’s with the same update package. When updating the mixer, the updater tells me it’s updated to version 1.0. Checking the mixers version after update on the mixer itself, it tells me it has version D:0106, M:1107. During the update process everything runs fine, no error. What can I do now? Any idea?
I got the very latest version 1.3 for Mac from the german user support, same problem, the mixer does not communicate with the players.
Hi there, is there any news about this as you said 2018??
thanks best
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So, looking back at 2018: which devices were we talking about? I think Soundswitch and Resolume were the only ones?
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I bought the brand new Prime X1850 and SC6000M set and testing it at the moment. I have issues with firmware 1.1 for X1850, please see New Firmware v1.1 for x1850
I wish I could convince Y’all just how much opening up the Prime gear to Ableton Link would set you apart from the rest of the pack. I personally know several DJs that want to buy SC6000s, but are sticking with Pioneer because there is still an option to link Ableton Live w’ their CDJs via Beat-Link-Trigger. Hell, no longer having access to B-L-T is really starting to make me sad. I knew what I was getting into by switching out my CDJs for SC6000s, but as these weeks have gone on, it’s starting to get unbearable, LOL!
This isn’t just about triggering tempo-sync’d clips with our mixes, but also (for those of us who have analog mixers) to use tempo-sync’d software EFX (Ableton/iPad). So, if Y’all were thinking of releasing your own version of a DJS-1000 that works within the Prime network, that won’t fulfill the desire to have Ableton Link or Beat-Link-Trigger support.
PLEASE implement Ableton Link or at the very least release your sync protocol so James Elliot & Co can work their magic and add Beat-Link-Trigger support to the Prime players. I’m begging Y’all!!
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It’s been three years and a just a few requests for more evolved, or involved, midi links. Very few, according to a search for “midi” in prime forums.
It’s not happened so my guess would be either denon see it as poor ROI (return on investment) or denon have got something up their sleeve with one of their associates companies like Akai. I don’t know how many DJs who bought prime own any midi kit - at a guess I’d put it in the lower single digits percentage wise
Or maybe engine prime is going to tip acid over the “standalone” trophy of prime and will have a performance mode which will have all the midi functionality in that - a bit of a kick in the mouth for standalone purchasers. But then again, once you start plugging midi bits and boxes in, a prime product isn’t standalone anyway.
All these ideas above are just purely guessing on my part, I’ve not read or heard anything To back up any of the guesses
You know, the fact that Denon hasn’t even attempted to enable Link on it’s players leads me to believe that they just won’t. I know that DJs that push the boundaries of what it means to be a DJ are few and far between, but we are out here, and some of us choose Denon gear for a number of reasons. Mainly innovation and workflow. We want answers, is Ableton Link in the pipeline?
We will know what is in the pipeline as soon as it gets to our hands. Denon like many big companies don’t show what’s cooking before it’s ready. We need to wait and see what’s coming. I just hope our requests will be fulfilled in a good way, and every user will be happy.
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It’s no fact.
Only a handful of beta testers and the denon staff would know what is, or isn’t, being attempted.
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I know for a fact that if denon somehow manages to apply abelton link to the prime series no one will be satisfied with it’s performance and there will be a continuous epicycle of requests and demands for denon to fix something that is present by nature and can’t be changed.
And for those who advocate for abelton link should produce a video to demonstrate it’s effectiveness when djing.
No one can produce a video can they. I know cause I use Ableton link with my iPad between devices and apps.
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lol every month or so i check into the denondjforum to:
- see if there’s anything new/interesting i should know about my sc5000,
- see if the culture of self-appointed gatekeepers, comically overstated grand inquisitors, inflexible and reactionary-minded DJs who “just use their ears”, fear almost anything new or different, take criticism of a product made by a giant corporation personally, and are disgusted by their fellow consumers inability to "just be grateful’ for the gifts given by InMusic in the form of occasional fixes, updates and third-party partnerships which translates in Galactic Standard Speech to ‘firmware updates.’
- check if there’s been any word regarding Ableton Link and the sc5000.
So i have to sincerely admit, i am thoroughly impressed with your response @Wyley1 regarding Ableton Link, the predictability of consumers in a capitalist system, use of the word “facts”, and the absolute Truth you seem to possess about Ableton Link and its potential for DJing (based in part on a personal use of some ipad apps and an assortment of un-named ‘devices’).
i haven’t posted to anything on this forum in over a year, so as a personal thank you for inspiring me to do something i vowed (via digital blood oath) to never again do, i’ll create the very video which “no one can produce” in the hopes of showing you that, in a world where consumers never stop advocating for themselves like epicycles in the sky that keep on turning, what you once thought literally IMpossible, is literally ()possible! No need to thank me, though i do need to know just one thing:
What are your requirements for “effectiveness”.
Once I know your requirements, I’ll produce a video showing that, contrary to your concerns, Ableton Link is a useful, totally reliable, method of DJing using only gear* (with strong suggestions that Link works similarly for hybrid DJing, gear DJing, and even ipad device djing) .
Would a short demonstration djing in the music genre(s) of my choice using an Akai Force + xdj-1000mk2 (x1, x2, x3? i can throw in another sampler or a different cdj, etc)** work for you?
Let me know 
- cf. below ** “…but Pioneer DJ CDJs and XDJs don’t even use Ablerton Link” you’re no doubt saying. True. Pioneer DJ’s DJ gear uses PRO LINK (a closed system, proprietary communication protocol used to transmit both timing/syncing-type data as well as audio file and associated metadata between their devices). But let’s go back to 2017…by which i mean just scroll up to the top of this post where ther OP discusses an open source github project called Beat-Link which allows PRO LINK to translate into Ableton Link timing info. so I will also have an old raspberry pi (3b+) running a small open source tool that converts Pioneer DJ’s PRO LINK protocol to Ableton Link connected to the setup. And since the Akai Force can sync via Ableton Link, and Beat-Link will functionally turn the PRO LINK gear into Ableton Link-enabled devices, a clear demonstration can be shown.
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not to be a buzzkill to myself, but a while back Denon DJ themselves produced a video showing the possibility and effectiveness of Ableton Link for djing using a Force and a sc5000 synced together via AL (though the sc5000 was in HID mode using Serato’s Ableton Link capabilities) . that video can be produced easily via here: AKAI Force + Denon DJ Prime promo video
It would be best if denon keeps things in house when it comes to syncing.
Abelton link = midi sync to me when it comes to performance and they both work good but they are far from magical and game changing. Abelton link over Ethernet is probably the way to go but it’s not only denon that needs to commit to this as most external gear still comes with midi and no Ethernet port.
But the question does come to mind is that what could be done with Ableton link now vs what can be done without it?
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I was actually hoping Denon would implement Ableton Link via Ethernet & the built-in WiFi.
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Would be really awesome to sync Denon Prime Go with the Akai MPC One. 
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They did in the meantime.
Should work since MPC one has Ableton link as well.
Haha, that comment was made nearly 2 years ago. Indeed, Ableton Link is the coolest feature Denon has ever added to the ecosystem.
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Oh sorry, I didnt realise, thought it was a younger post somehow.
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