Prime 4 tidal issues that need to be fix

Prime 4 not storing bpm and key on all song played from tidal, also with million of song on tidal no way to pick song by bpm and key with out downloading the song so takes too long to find a song to match the playing bpm specially with request, so tidal is useless without the bpm and key prior downloading, there is no use to tell the customer that you can play any song if you cant figure out when to play it quickly, also the need of using a laptop to create a playlist in tidal hurts prime 4 on ease of use, I can make a crate in soundcloud from my phone and have it in serato very fast, not with tidal or prime 4, is all this going to be fix? I would like to know

Hi @DjSaavy - Welcome to the community!

If you have a source drive connected and selected. You can save TIDAL metadata. Without a drive there is no memory to store the analyzed and performance data to. There is a pop up message that informs you of this when you connect to TIDAL.

I would not call access to 50 million tracks useless. He’s one useful example, a patron at your event asks for a song but you don’t have in your personal collection, flip to TIDAL and perform a quick search, boom its there, you’re a hero.

It seems like you’re forgetting this is the first integration of music streaming on any standalone device by any manufacture. The integration will mature over time. If there is a feature that would benefit your workflow, you should request it in the PRIME 4 feature request area.

Yes, you can do this with TIDAL and PRIME 4 as well. Make a ‘Request List’ playlist on your phone/tablet, add a song to that playlist, go to that playlist on the PRIME 4. The only extra step is to click in and out of this playlist on the PRIME 4 to refresh the data and see the recently added music.

What needs to be fixed exactly? Is something not working for you?

Near future will see a lot of functionality added to the streaming/pool services. Like lockers, playlists (already done in Tidal, you can prepare that on your PC and then have it ready for you on the P4 - love it!) and other ways to prepare in advance.

As a mobile DJ, the greatest appeal is, as the example suggested by @JWiLL, the option to search for requests. As long as you know artist and/or (part of) the title, chances are fair you can find it. Downloading takes less than 20 seconds (at lossless quality)! And analyses is pretty much done when downloading is done. You can then pre-listen to the track and determine if it fits directly or if you have to play it at a later time.

While I don’t see myself trusting online content for playing an entire gig, it would be foolish not to see the enormous potential. Having a core collection (say 800 -1.500 tracks fully prepped) on local “hard” devices and then using online sources to compliment that. I can see that work well :smiley:

My three cents as usual.


It will be nice also to be able to play a PLAYLIST on the ZONE OUT … you CAN NOT play Tidal Playlist on the ZONE OUT … only from hard drive… :confused: … Also… I don’t think the BPM is working correctly on TIDAL… I have SoundSwitch … and it only dims my Chauvet led lights!.. No pixel mapping, no BPM sound activated… :confused:

New technology needs early adopters to help iron out the wrinkles. So, you either wait and avoid the hassle of stuff not working (yet, quite) as expected and leave things on the shelf for now … or … you buy stuff as it first hits the shelf and accept the drawbacks.

There is, imho, no way to have both. Especially when there is a lot of innovation in a product.