ive been using my pc to a external hdd and then from the external hdd to the p4 but it will not sync properly for me, i want to take the external hdd out of the equation
I don’t think you’ll find a recomendation from Denon on that issue. This is something you’ll have to test via trial and error. There are manufacturers of 30+ Foot USB cables that claim that their product is lossless. The only real way to find out is to purchase one and find out (I saw them for around $20 on Amazon).
Let us know how it works out.
Look for USB A to B Cables.
I do not recomment such a long cable for usb. you can only look out for a cable with integrated hub electronics, so that the signal will be refreshed … but 30ft … is really long …
I would better reccoment a laptop in the near of your device.
Simplest solution is to put the PC and Prime 4 next to each other
Surely you could accomodate the Prime 4 near to the PC long enough to update?
What is it about the PC location that prevents this? Even if a 30ft cable did work, isn’t it extremely inconvenient to have them so far apart (connecting, turning on/off etc)?
The simplest of the simple solutions is to not use internal hard disk but to use removable devices: SDXC, USB flash drives, self-powered USB harddisk.
When the miracle happens that we will be able to update the HD in the Prime 4 via Ethernet or WIFI then that day will be the right one to mount an HD or SSD inside the Prime 4.
Personally, I did first install a hard drive into my Prime 4. After about a week, I decided to remove it and place it into an external hard drive enclosure. The enclosure gave me more flexibility when I needed to update my music (i.e. I can sit outside on the patio instead of having to power up my P4 and be directly connected to it). As for music load times, I see no significant difference in accessing the drive internally vs externally.
The initial enthusiasm (and the novelty of being able to have the internal HD) pushed me to install it inside, but then after a couple of library updates I realized how inconvenient it was to always have to bring the PC and the P4 to the connection distance of the USB3 cable. Now with the SDXC I am fine: it is invisible, because it remains inside the P4, so there is no risk of bumping it, then if no one knows of its existence you do not run the risk that at a party there will be someone who detaches it from the console like instead it can happen with USB sticks.
It cannot be forgotten at home when I leave for a party because it is always inside P4, except when it needs to be updated. In this case it can be extracted and connected to the PC (even a fixed PC as it does not need to be removed from the desk) for connection with Engine Prime.
The SDXC idea is good - if your collection is small enough to fit onto one. The next hurdle is the cost.
After reading your post, I checked to see if I could find a card of equivalent size to my internal SSD. Yes I could, but it was 2x the cost of my SSD drive - and that looks to be one of the cheaper cards!
So for me, internal SSD wins. Far larger capacity (some DJs need it) and much cheaper per GB.
I too used the internal hard drive at first. After a few months I grew wary of switching it into controller mode just to update it. It’s just easier to use external drives.
export your music to Dropbox
then use the dropbox in P4 to play
super nice way to always be updated
there are extensive tutorials on CrateHackers (facebook)
Hope this helps !
I use my internal ssed drive for all the Basic Tracks
The classics and the must haves.
Then I have the Dropbox with my analyzed “new Tracks”
and sometimes an external drive if I have something with me from a collegue or special for the event tracks