I believe it fair to say that there are more DJs worldwide who don’t use serato, compared to those who do. There are several platforms to DJ on, and serato is just one of those platforms. Could there be more DJs DJing with a collection of vinyl (not just a pair of DVS vinyls lol) than serato? Hmm there are a lot of purists still out there? Are there more CD DJs out there than serato? I’d suspect not as CDs can be ripped blindingly fast? Maybe that’s the “most” that the poster was getting at. I doubt we’ll ever know the proper accurate market share… cause if we asked say DJTechtipstoolz we’d probably get 99% laptop users. Ask a mobile beats Las Vegas audience (when they’d sobered up) and we’d probably get a splattering of almost every playback type going… (the MBLV a few months ago had someone trying to sing the advantages of minidisc (!!!)
I don’t agree the serato controllability was a “waste” per say - it’s another arrow in armoury of automatic weapons in the Prime arsenal. I would say it was more of a distraction to the development teams at denon. I’m hoping for many and various improvements on engine Prime database management and in its primary standalone mode from now on.
Denon is a business and for profit. If they didn’t think the distraction will bring in some earnings they won’t bother.
They have brought out many updates in the last few months plus Serato. Updates and improvements dropping faster than one can install em.
Software DJ solutions is where I envisage a Rider shift. So they need to bring on Traktor, Virtual DJ support soon. The CDJ is industry standard now, kinda reminds me of the sorta stronghold technics had on the TT market, even when there were cheaper alternatives with better features.
I’m not saying Serato is the most used DJ solution , but it’s most likely in the top 3 worldwide.
Those are the couple of things I was referring to, as you pointed out also. Ok you didn’t go as far as asking the Traktor user group how many of them used serato ha ha, or vice versa.
And geographic differences too. Some countries got saturated by trial offers of one brand of software, or another.
But anyways however loved or unloved serato is or was or might be, or might not be in the future, denon Primes now have a way of getting it to work with a certain amount of onscreen feedback, which will be a benefit, in certain circles
Again, I fail to understand how ANY concentration on a feature that actually sold the units to all the Serato DJ’s …AND was always promised even at NAMM is even questioned.
Reminds me of the discussion of why include sync when “most” dj’s don’t use it.
Two good reasons:
As Mufasa stated, this is a business and you want to appeal to the largest audience your product can reach without hampering your current clientele.
It’s an industry standard feature that “can” free experienced DJ’s up to concentrate on other aspects of their performance. However, in my experience, it doesn’t work that well unless you really know if your beatgrids are spot on and how the song flows.
One good thing is if you don’t like something that is an option…don’t use it. Problem solved.
It is interesting to hear those so vocal about something that has been in the pipeline for ages.
Hello, can you please inform me, I’m new to all this, I want to be able to use machine mk2, along with my prime 4 with serato software as a both machine software and as a midi. How would I sync them together in order to be able to play song on my serato, then be able to do some finger drumming on the machine mk2 while all the audio are coming out from my two main speakers?
I believe you’ve been already answered in your other post.
If the point is that you, as you mentioned, you have just arrived to this world, maybe you are starting in a very high/complex level.
I can tell you that I work with Traktor and my Numark Controller (but soon to receive my Prime 4) and a Maschine Jam with a special mapping that I bought that allows me to control STEMs, all 4 FX layers, all 32 samples per deck within each Remixdeck that it’s loaded as channel, finger drum and sequencing live. I mean all works in my case as well midi mapped to Traktor. So you should look for either Serato midi mapping for NI Maschine that you own, wait as I’m doing for Traktor to work with Denon Prime, or follow the Ableton Link recommendation that you received in the other post.
How did you get the BETA version to NOT be eliminated from the firmware update for being able to utilize SERATO, because as soon as I upgraded my software to use SERATO with MY PRIME 4… my WI-FI feature wasn’t available anymore!!!
I find I am spending less and less time on serato anyway and more time on stand alone anyway. So this might be a feature or a compatibility that means less and less as time goes on.
Hello @jmanuel10, sorry to hear about your issues with PRIME 4. When you say that the FX Parameter button does not work, do you mean:
-The function of the button (in standalone) will not work?
-The function of the button will not work (with Serato)?
-The button will not light up at all?
Lastly, as a heads up, the FX Parameter button will only light up if the FX Select button to the left of it is on. Are you experiencing these issue with the FX Select button on?
Dear,
The button does not light up at all as it should when whole unit is ON. All the buttons of P4 are illuminated, except that one only in the right deck. The same button in de left deck is ok.
Am I crazy (possibly yes) or did I see in the Serato video them mention the Sweep FX on the P4 would still be usable when using Serato? I’m sure that would mean our P4 could be used analog-style which as far as I know we can’t yet. But again, I swear I hear him say you can still use those. Anyone else catch that?
Yup Ok went back and at the 19 min mark he says it!
Mine are dark and not usable for the record. : /
Is there a setting to enable this or did he just let the cat out of the bag and full analog mode is coming soon?!!
I updated both serato and prime 4. When i connect them i don’t get the screen on prime 4 to show serato every thing works but the screen show it still trying to connect anybody knows about this need help thxs
About the FX Parameter button that does not work, I tried downgrading the firmware to 1.3.2 and then back to 1.3.3 (not USB updater) and the issue is now SOLVED.
(!!!)