I never owned a pioneer set… Only Denon (NOW: 3x SC5000, PAST: 3x SC2900, 3x S5000, 1x DN-2600F), Technics (2x SL1200 MK2) and JBSystems (CD400). In most clubs I played with various Pioneer sets (CDJ1000’s, CDJ2000’s, …)
I like the analysis of the songs ofcourse, but currently it takes away some freedom and this is realy basic to directly start preparing your next track(s). Nevertheless, I absolutely like the SC5000’s a lot!
I don’t know if it is possible but as a mobile dj I would love it if the players could read off normally formatted USB drives so when a client or celebrant walks up I don’t have to turn on my laptop to transfer the songs to a correctly formatted drive
They already have this - most USB sticks are formatted to Fat32 and will work without needing a computer.
It reads yes… but that’s all that happens. The question of @Subtronic reminds me of a request I made in March 2017:
I’m not following what you’re looking for from a USB stick. Currently if a client were to hand you a stick with some tracks on it, the player would read it, analyse the tracks, create a database so that if you reload the track the work is already done, and it will record any cue / loop points you add plus any adjustments you make to the grid. All of this without ever touching your computer.
Gemini actually had it first. And theirs can set cue points while it’s analyzing. Their players are still extremely buggy, but they could do that.
I’m also sure that the Stanton SCS4.DJ can do it too.
the problem is that if someone like a celebrant or client walks up with a usb formatted a different way like ntfs or whatever it might be, there is no way of playing it without transfering the songs to a correctly formatted drive. I know this is not a major problem for most situations and deffinatly in a club situation but as a mobile dj it would just be nice.
The only 100% solution is “Be prepared”,
Overall, this is always…always going to have the potential of happening. Eg: Their device wont play in my system.
Indeed it’s had the potential of happening since vinyl records could get scratched or warped. The CD era yielded similar issues with some of the earlier CDRs that people would bring up to the DJ, not being readable/playable on different brands of players. CDRs burnt at slower speeds would sometimes be the only way of getting any sort of multi-player compatibility.
There’s also a current “game” doing the rounds of guests coming up to DJs at weddings, asking the DJ to play a track off of the guests MP3 player/iPod/smartphone using the headphone socket, then, after the track is played, the guest collects their device from the DJ and claims that the DJ broke their device as it doesnt do x or y or z anymore.
More and more usb datasticks are appearing in retailers with factory-fitted data encryption (Data Vault / Secure Traveller and more) which deviate from standard formatting.
In such situations, where playback of a particular track, such as bride & grooms first dance, or processional/recessional/signing tracks, I would always point the client to a dropbox account, or meet them personally several days, or in the case of weddings, several months prior to the event.
100% agree @Gee_DenonDJ and I hate the idea of plugging anything unknown into my setup. I just thought I would throw out the idea of expanding the supported file system as this is a wish list. I was really hoping to be able to leave the laptop at home but every time I look around there seems to be another reason I need it (not just music related).
Thanks for your understanding. I appreciate the dilemma as I used to offer my DJ services through an agency, rather than having direct contact with the hirer. Often the agency had the music that the hirer had wanted, eg: A special edit of the first dance, or a backing track for a singer etc - and potentially, the agency would have had that music file for months, but only send it to me a few days before the booking, or tell the hirer to give me the file “on the night” - which really didnt help.
Getting rid of the agency was my solution to that issue 
Think that Denon could get alot Pioneer users to change their rider if they added a Cue-scratch function. Dont know if this can be done software-wize or it should be a new hardware.
I suggested something similar about a year ago.
Probably not interesting enough for most users.
To most Pioneer users it would be interesting.
I would like that the SC5000 does a bar/beat countdown from the next cue/loop back to where the song is now. Makes it easy to start the new song right on time, e.g. the intro of the new song is 8 bars thus it needs to be started 8 bars before the cue on the current song as the cue is at the start of the break.
they also make reference to the Active Loop, this would also be a very welcome addition to the player.
I would request that the Recordbox -> Engine Prime conversion when you plug in a USB with only Rekorbox on it is done to Crates rather than Playlists. It can’t be any more work and just makes sense so that the sort options are available after the conversion (not available at the moment as the conversion is done to playlists).
Beat Jump buttons: Instead of having to press Shift to search back or forward I think that a ‘press and hold’ option would be much more intuitive (and standard practice on most other players).
If this were to change then then permanent printing next to the buttons would then be incorrect. The Beat jump buttons, follow the standard of their Un-shifted function is written above the buttons, whilst their shifted function is written inversed (black letters in a white box) underneath the buttons.
The close proximity of the Shift buttons to the Beat Jump/Search buttons makes the Search function ergonomically sound also.
Thanks
Noooooooo dont change what we’ve all got used to using since the players came out.
If you just aim at “lets copy that”, “Lets copy them” all you’re doing is copying the lowest common denominator.
The worst ethic that any DJ, euqipment maker, or anyone for that matter can live by is “We’ll do it this way - why? because we’ve ALWAYS done it that way”
Changing it so that a DJ walking up to the players cant trust the labels that are hardware printed on, or beside the buttons, just because the previous DJ changed some setting or option is just gonna make that next DJ think “these are complicated, I dont understand”